Diálogo con el seminario en El Paso

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Testigos de El Paso, traducido de Santiago: Catherine Wilson Shupe sobre su tiempo como niño en Avalos.

 

 

Testigos de El Paso, traducido de Santiago: el ingeniero Jorge Villalobos compara la contaminación en la planta de Avalos con el tabaquismo.

 

 

 

Testigos de El Paso, traducido de Santiago: el ex-ASARCO trabajado Daniel Arellano: “nos daban una hebilla de cinturón de premio por no tener accidentes y si alguien se accidentaba la gente le reclamaba y por eso la gente trataba de no accidentarse y no reportaban accidentes.”

 

 

Testigos de El Paso, traducido de Santiago: Joe Piñon, hijo de trabajador de ASARCO y farmacéutico local, sobre los trabajadores emplomados, su oposición a una renovacion de la planta.

 

 

Despues de oír hablar de El Paso, Jesus Antonio Soto reflecta que en Estados Unidos habia mas posibilidades de trabajo que en Chihuahua; consecuencias; como cómo aparecieron los trabajadores después de trabajar en la casa de sacos.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EPT6jQemn8g&t=2h13m26s

 

Luis Santacruz Aranda: los comentarios favorables no quiere decir que haya trabajdores or ex-trabajadores con otras experiencias; “no quiere decir que la planta haya sido un paraiso…”

 

 

Pregunta de El Paso: si ustedes saben si en algún momento aquí se quemaron desechos tóxicos…respuestas de Luis Oscar Rodríguez Andriani, Ernesto Martínez, Carlos Manuel Zaldívar Pérez, Arturo Limón.

 

 

PPregunta de El Paso: ¿Como se explican que haya tanta diferencia entre uno y otro? Respuestas de Jesus Antonio Soto, Ernesto Martínez, Luis Oscar Rodríguez Andriani, Carlos Manuel Zaldívar Pérez.

 

 

El Paso and Its Smelter (Overview)

IMG_0078 copyHistorical Overview

ASARCO operated a lead and copper smelter on the western outskirts of El Paso for nearly the entire twentieth century. This town’s emergence as a city over this same while owed much to the jobs and wealth this smelter generated. Yet the long shadow of toxicity it cast over its own workforce as well as neighboring environments has also left deep imprints on this city’s history. Nationally, the lead coughed out by the El Paso smelter has contributed to, among other things, a heightened appreciation among scientists and regulators of how damaging this toxic metal can be to children. But locally, controversies have ebbed and flowed over the resultant danger and damage, from the events leading to the closure of Smeltertown in the early 1970’s, to ASARCO’s renovation of its plant with CONTOP technology in the early 1990’s, to the “Get the Lead Out” campaign of the early 2000’s, which helped keep the smelter from reopening. Even though the smelter is now being demolished, its many historical impacts continue to linger in El Pasoans’ memories and bodies, in questions they still have about local contamination, and in quandaries about what to do with the site.

Chronology of Smelter–Community Relations in El Paso

1880’s-1920’s (El Paso population 1880: 736; 1920: 77,560; Juarez population 1920: 19,457)
1887—El Paso lead smelter founded by Robert Towne; acquired in 1901 by American Smelting and Refining
1911—lead smelter augmented with opening of a copper plant; by 1928, 700 total employees
Late 1920’s—Installation planned of a Cotrell precipitator to “abolish the smoke nuisance” which should then “cease to bother El Pasoans” especially “Kern Place and Sunset Heights”
1930’s and 40’s (1940 El Paso population: 96,810; Juarez population: 48,881)
1936—Smelter has $1 millon payroll; 800 employees; by 1949, 850 employees
1950’s and 60’s (1960 El Paso population: 276,687; Juarez population: 262,119)
1950s—$300,000 Cotrell Precipitation plant added; ASARCO smelter recognized nationally for safety and industrial hygiene programs
1950, 1956, 1957, 1967, 1968—Strikes by smelter workers
1966—610-foot “smokeless” stack opened
1970’s  (1970 El Paso population 339,615; Juarez population 407,370)
1970–US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) founded and federal Clean Air Act strengthened
Early 1970’s– City of El Paso lawsuit against ASARCO for violating Clean Air Act (settled 1972); ASARCO plans new technologies for pollution control including electrostatic precipitators and a sulphur extraction plant
1972—Occupational Safety and Health Adminstration (OSHA) created by new federal law
1972–Children in Smeltertown found to have elevated lead levels or poisoning; residents relocated by City of El Paso to public housing and Smeltertown torn down
Mid-70s—Scientific team from Centers for Disease Control demonstrates elevated lead in blood of children beyond Smeltertown; results contested by study by local pediatricians funded by the trade association of the lead industry; Mexican government scientists also demonstrate elevated lead levels in children in Juarez, south of the smelter.
1976-1977—828-foot smokestack opened; ASARCO smelter employs 1000
Late 1970’s—OSHA pressures ASARCO on high levels of lead and other toxins within the smelter workplace
1979—first lawsuit against ASARCO for lead poisoning of children in Juarez
1980’s  (1980 El Paso population: 425,289; Juarez population: 649,275)
1980—“Superfund” created by federal government to clean up hazardous industrial waste sites
Early 1980’s–petitions to stop ASARCO pollution on the west side of El Paso gain as many as 10,000 signatures
1985—ASARCO shuts down its lead smelter but continues to smelt copper
1990’s (1990 El Paso population: 515,342 Juarez population: 789,522)
1991-92—ASARCO plans to modernize its copper smelter; given permit by Texas Air Control Board (TACB) to build CONTOP, which will supposedly reduce pollution and costs; small opposition at the public hearing on the permit decision
1998—Smelter only employs 350 workers; in 1999, ASARCO sells its copper production facilities to Grupo Mexico, which shuts down production in El Paso
1999–first lawsuit filed accusing ASARCO of burning hazardous waste at El Paso smelter
2000’s and 2010’s  (2000 El Paso population: 563,662; Juarez population: 1,187, 275)
(2010 El Paso population: 649,121; Juarez population: 1,321,004)
2001—University of Texas at El Paso (UTEP) scientists Amaya, Pingitore begin study of lead exposure in and around El Paso; EPA begins assessing environmental risks in local soil
2002 onward—ASARCO hatches plan to reopen the El Paso copper smelter and requests a permit from the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ)
2005-08—EPA-ordered clean-up of over 1000 homes with lead contaminated soil in West and South El Paso
Mid-2000’s–community opposition arises; groups involved against the permit include (not in any particular order) Sierra Club, Association Of Community Organizations For Reform Now (ACORN), Ex-ASARCO Workers, neighborhood organizers, UTEP students, Mayor John Cook and the City Council, Senator Shapleigh and his office.
2007-2009 TCEQ approves permit but ASARCO decides not to reopen the smelter; Project Navigator (a private company employed by the government) takes over management of cleanup
2013—El Paso smokestack brought down

El Paso – Other Local Community Members

Instructions

 

 

Catherine Shupe on growing up in the American colony in Avalos.

 

Juan Garza on ASARCO’s startup and malfunction events; how health dept handled.

 

Catherine Shupe on Alzheimer’s in her family.

 

Catherine Wilson-Shupe, Jorge Villalobos, Joe Piñon, Jose Manuel Escobedo, and Mario Navarez on company and others such as Landrigan who knew, came to know about lead’s dangers early on.

 

Joe Piñon, Chris Sellers, Bill Addington on what’s “acceptable” for lead exposures in children today.

 

Vivian Russell on her suspicions about corrosive film on vehicles, “Star Wars” gear, removal of houses.

 

Juan Garza on how he first got to know about lead hazards in EPA sponsored community meetings.

 

Juan Garza on rise of EPA and local Health Dept efforts to address lead in the neighborhoods.

 

Juan Garza on Get the Lead Out’s effort to get Health Dept testing in homes, unreleased results.

 

Catherine Wilson-Shupe on where workers versus managers lived around the Chihuahua smelter, on playing at the slag dump.

 

Charlie Rodriguez, Catherine Wilson-Shupe, and Jorge Villalobos on water pollution and use by smelters they know.

 

El Paso – Managers and Professionals in Local Industry

Instructions

 

 

Jorge Villalobos talks about being first Mexican metallurgist in El Paso plant.

 

Jorge Villalobos asks about what’s going to happen when we shut down all risky industries in US; how these migrating elsewhere where they are less equipped to handle dangers.

 

Exchange between Jorge Villalobos and Joe Piñon over risks of technologies, pharmacy vs lead and other industrial risks; Pinon mentions Port Arthur denial of permit.

 

Jorge Villalobos on failures and resulting contamination from ASARCO plant in Chihuahua, early 70s.

 

Jorge Villalobos asked by Juan Garza about blending baghouse dust with other smelters’ materials, talks about shutdown of Tacoma smelter in which he was involved, arsenic; failure of transfer of safer technology to San Luis Potosi smelter.

 

Juan Garza asks Jorge Villalobos about who made decisions about what materials blended at Encycle; not necessarily at level of plant manager.

 

Charlie Rodriguez on what their research shows about which managers knew about the hazardous waste shipments.

 

Jorge Villalobos again on what he did and knew about over 1990’s, how didn’t know about the hazardous waste shipments.

 

Jorge Villalobos and others discuss lack of knowledge even among earlier managers.

 

Catherine Wilson-Shupe, Jorge Villalobos, Joe Piñon, Jose Manuel Escobedo, and Mario Navarez on company and others such as Landrigan who knew, came to know about lead’s dangers early on.

 

Frank Attaguillo and Jorge Villalobos on where the machinery of the El Paso Smelter went when it shut down.

 

Jorge Villalobos along with Charlie Rodriguez and Catherine Wilson-Shupe on different kinds of technologies in El Paso at different times, also comparisons with Chihuahua.

 

Jorge Villalobos with Chris Sellers, and Joe Piñon on implications of technological differences for pollution.

 

Jorge Villalobos with Juan Garza on electrostatic precipitators.

 

Charlie Rodriguez, Catherine Wilson-Shupe, and Jorge Villalobos on water pollution and use by smelters they know.

 

El Paso – Becoming Active, Mobilizing, and Clashing

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Joe Piñon talks about his effort to get people to testify against ASARCO’s proposal for Contop project in the late 1980’s, all the opposition they faced.

 

 

Bill Addington talks about the controversy over the Contop project.

 

 

Veronica Carbajal discusses importance of late 1990’s EPA’ arrival in town; also of the 2005 ASARCO bankruptcy.

 

 

Bill Addington on the importance of Obama’s election in critical decision by EPA to require a new permit.

 

 

Charlie Rodriguez on the ASARCO bankruptcy; his questions about what went on there.

 

 

Bill Addington and Jorge Villalobos discuss what was known when about the hazardous waste shipments to the ASARCO plant, how revealed by media and activists.

 

 

Charlie Rodriguez on whistle-blower report inside company, how higher-ups decided to incinerate wastes anyway..

 

 

Juan Garza on rise of EPA and local Health Dept efforts to address lead in the neighborhoods.

 

 

Juan Garza on Get the Lead Out’s effort to get Health Dept testing in homes, unreleased results.

 

 

El Paso – Keeping Things Quiet

How might past awareness of smelter-related dangers have been downplayed or otherwise manipulated?
Instructions

 


 

Joe Piñon on local culture of silence during 50s through 70s about ASARCO’s effects.

 

 

Joe Piñon more on local industrial pressures and media that kept damper on discussions about ASARCO’s effects.

 

 

Danny Arellano on corporate strategy of keeping managers in dark on what’s going into plant, as set out in 2001.

 

 

Jorge Villalobos on what exactly metallurgists were told, learned about the materials they then worked with.

 

 

Bill Addington and Jorge Villalobos discuss what was known when about the hazardous waste shipments to the ASARCO plant.

 

 

El Paso – Remembering When You Didn’t Know

What do you remember about smelter-associated hazards, especially from when you may have been less aware of how dangerous they might be?
Instructions

 


 

Danny Arellano talks about difficulties communicating between Anglo managers and non-Anglo workforce, changes there, how many injuries not reported, also managers didn’t tell about some dangers, especially hazardous wastes; workers became willing to insist.

 

 

Jorge Villalobos on how those involved in lead industry didn’t know its effects for so long; challenge this seminar poses for today regarding risks.

 

 

Balthazar Huerta on how little workers would be informed about risks involved with tasks; importance of “chemical” designation in deciding what to avoid.

 

 

Juan Garza on his experience growing up in Sunset Heights, pediatrician surveys, pollution from the smelter there; also at UTEP.

 

 

Catherine Shupe on growing up in the American colony in Avalos; not knowing about dangers.

 

 

Jorge Villalobos discusses conditions in early 1970’s; also arrival of EPA and changes at ASARCO.

 

 

Elvira Salcido talks about what she saw of plant’s smoke from Smeltertown from 1930s.

 

 

Jorge Villalobos and others discuss lack of knowledge even among earlier managers.

 

 
 

El Paso – Coming to Know

What dangers did you learn were associated with the lead smelter?  How and when did you learn of them?


Instructions


Charlie Rodriguez describes how in 2004, he learned of ASARCO’s incineration of hazardous wastes back in the 1990’s: 


 

 

Jorge Villalobos talks about what he learned upon coming out of school and going to work at the Chihuahua Smelter, then El Paso, in the 1970’s; effects of the EPA and OSHA’s arrival; loss of knowledge with smelters’ closures:


Joe Piñon talks about first getting to know about what lead smelter was doing to workers in the 1930’s:


Balthazar Huerta explains how effects on clothes clued workers in to some dangers:


Veronica Carbajal and Balthazar Huerta on more enclosed workplaces, heightened production faced by later generations of workers; connecting to worsening effects on their health:


Villalobos on evolution of knowledge about, dealings with, hazards among managers, differences with Mexico circa 1985:


Charlie Rodriguez on how workers introduced to risks of jobs from 1970’s onward; how things changed in terms of what English speaking workers understood:


Elvira Salcido talks episode of lead poisoning in Smeltertown early 1970’s:


Vivian Russell on how she and her husband became more aware of job hazards; his development of cancer:


Catherine Wilson-Shupe on Alzheimer’s in her family:


Vivian Russell on her suspicions about corrosive film on vehicles, “Star Wars” gear, removal of houses:


Catherine Wilson-Shupe, Jorge Villalobos, Joe Piñon, Jose Manuel Escobedo, and Mario Navarez on company and others such as Landrigan who knew, came to know about lead’s dangers early on:


Joe Piñon, Chris Sellers, Bill Addington on what’s “acceptable” for lead exposures in children today:


Mario Navarez, Chris Sellers on experiencing mental effects from lead:


Juan Garza on how he first got to know about lead hazards in EPA sponsored community meetings:


El Paso–Activists – Local

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Bill Addington and Jorge Villalobos discuss what was known when, what came to be known in 2000s, about the hazardous waste shipments to the ASARCO plant.

 

 

Bill Addington on current issues over redevelopment of the site; questions of responsibility for its contamination.

 

 

Catherine Wilson-Shupe, Jorge Villalobos, Joe Piñon, Jose Manuel Escobedo, and Mario Navarez on company and others such as Landrigan who knew, came to know about lead’s dangers early on.

 

 

Joe Piñon, Chris Sellers, Bill Addington on what’s “acceptable” for lead exposures in children today.

 

 

Juan Garza on how he first got to know about lead hazards in EPA sponsored community meetings.

 

 

Juan Garza on rise of EPA and local Health Dept efforts to address lead in the neighborhoods.

 

 

Juan Garza on Get the Lead Out’s effort to get Health Dept testing in homes, unreleased results.

 

El Paso – Workers in Local Industry

Instructions

 

 

Frank Attaguilo talks about the end to having separate showers for Anglo and Mexican/Latino workers; conflicts.

 

 

Charlie Rodriguez about changing education levels, slowly more English speaking workforce as grounds for fighting back.

 

 

Catherine Wilson-Shupe, Jorge Villalobos, Joe Piñon, Jose Manuel Escobedo, and Mario Navarez on company and others such as Landrigan who knew, came to know about lead’s dangers early on.

 

 

Mario Navarez and Chris Sellers on experiencing mental effects from lead.

 

 

Charlie Rodriguez on how workers effectively exposed to much higher levels of lead and arsenic because of equipment.

 

 

Charlie Rodriguez on whistle-blower report inside company, how higher-ups decided to incinerate wastes anyway.

 

 

Mario Navarez on the CONTOP technology, why he thinks it was actually introduced to incinerate wastes.

 

 

Mario Navarez and Frank Attaguilo on blood monitoring and experiences of lead poisoning in the workplace.

 

 

Frank Attaguilo and Jorge Villalobos on where the machinery of the El Paso Smelter went when it shut down.

 

 

Charlie Rodriguez, Catherine Wilson-Shupe, and Jorge Villalobos on water pollution and use by smelters they know.